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ruairi

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Dec 15 14 4:14 PM

Of course they would wait until after I had spent significant time building a sweet de-esser preset in Compassion! I've no doubt that this will sound great.

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rbreen

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Dec 16 14 11:24 AM

Just briefly looking this over, I'm sure it sounds and works great (as does all of Dave's stuff), but I'm curious what about it makes it so much better than, for example, the Sonnox Supressor.  I mean, I'm not saying it's not, but the marketing copy claims it's revolutionary and I'm not sure I see what's so advanced about it compared to the Suppressor (which has a very useful adaptive threshold), or even something like the FabFilter Pro-MB?

Thoughts anyone?

best,
rich

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ruairi

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Dec 16 14 12:12 PM

I think both Suppresser and Pro MB sound very poor, in different ways. I'm not really looking for "advanced", but good just sound. DMG have a very good track record with the EQ and compressor so I expect good things, Compassion is definitely over complicated but the actual compression sounds good.

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maarvold

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Dec 16 14 12:19 PM

rbreen wrote:
Just briefly looking this over, I'm sure it sounds and works great (as does all of Dave's stuff), but I'm curious what about it makes it so much better than, for example, the Sonnox Supressor.  I mean, I'm not saying it's not, but the marketing copy claims it's revolutionary and I'm not sure I see what's so advanced about it compared to the Suppressor (which has a very useful adaptive threshold), or even something like the FabFilter Pro-MB?

Thoughts anyone?

best,
rich

 
Rich,

(How are you doing, btw?), I really wanted to like the Supressor, but ultimately didn't like the sonic result.  And it's not because I don't like Sonnox: unlike many here, I like their Dynamics plug and use it often.  But I'm very picky about DeEssers for some reason.  Although my search hasn't been exhaustive, I'm still searching for my 'perfect DeEsser'.  Two that I currently use reasonably often are Waves Ren DeEsser and the UAD Precision DeEsser... and I sometimes use the DeEss function in the Sonnox [Full] Dynamics plug.  But, if there's a demo for the DMG, I'll be trying this one.  I really care only about one thing--if the end result pleases me, which allows me to move on; that would be "better" in my book.  Obviously YMMV.  

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ShawnJHatfield

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Dec 16 14 2:11 PM

From my own experience, I haven't found a single DeEsser that handles every situation, so it has become a process of learning the ins and outs of several, and then a bit of making them battle it out for transparency for the given program material. But RX still seems to be the best sounding in most situations though it takes considerably longer to spot DeEss. Of all the plug-in DeEssers I've used, the one in Alloy (v1) seemed to give the best results most often.

I'm pretty excited to hear how Essence sounds.

Shawn Hatfield www.audibleoddities.com

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ruairi

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Dec 16 14 4:04 PM

paddyk wrote:
Wondering if this will make my Weiss DS-1 obsolete? I am using the Eq and love it! I just downloaded the demo.

I did some pretty in depth comparisons between Compassion as a de-esser and a DS-1 recently in my room.  

Sonically I'll bet the DMG will compete, but the DS-1 has knobs.

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jerry tubb

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Dec 18 14 8:30 AM

Looks interesting. The price is right. 3 easy controls, good graphics ;~) MS capability. A wide range of OSX compatibility. If it sounds as transparent as they claim, I'm in. Definitely will do a demo. Also testing the fab filter DS'er and (gasp) multiband for 2015. Happy holidays, JT

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morespaceecho

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Dec 18 14 4:18 PM

from the manual, this made me chuckle:

"In fact, for about a decade, a mastering engineer wanting to invisibly de-ess a vocal in a full mix has been faced with only one, incredibly expensive option."

or, you know, we used the spitfish.
 

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gr

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Dec 18 14 7:10 PM

A heads up for any Wavelab 6 users. The version on their site was not compatible as a clip insert in the montage window. I sent Dave a note and he fixed it - over night! Gotta love that kind of support!

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technologyworks

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Dec 18 14 8:14 PM

Now that is customer service.
Had a bit of a play with it today. It goes deep, very deep once you open up the advanced section. A lot of powerful options that I didnt get a chance to experiment with enough.

Peter

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paddyk

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Dec 19 14 10:36 AM

I spent about an hour with it yesterday (I still need to spend more time with). in comparison to the DS-1 it's pretty close and yes it is deep. I set up both the plug in and the DS-1 with comparable settings and the plug in came in close to the DS. However the DS was more transparent and was faster at grabbing the offending transients. I did some further adjusting of the settings with the plug in and increased the threshold which seemed to grab more transients. After adjusting the settings (look ahead, attack, threshold etc in the advance side) it came much closer to the DS-1. I still preferred the DS-1. It seems that one can't set the DS-1 and the plug in the same to get equal results. I have to agree with Larry and I don't think I will be selling my DS-1 anytime soon. I do think this is a great plug in for the money! I wonder and maybe someone here (Dave) can enlighten us on the value of the Sharc chip vs the intel. I have done much reading on the chip and wonder if this is the success of the weiss units.

Cheers,

Pat

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jimkissling

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Dec 19 14 10:45 AM

I'd like to add another compliment for Dave's customer support. I downloaded the demo to test in PT9 and it crashed PT. I wrote to customer support and Dave responded within an hour that there was a known issue with PT9. He sent me a link to the fixed plugin the next day, just like Greg's experience.

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