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soapfoot

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Oct 23 15 9:15 AM

I think there's a big lawsuit in the works against Spotify, too. Has anyone heard about that? Something about a ton of unpaid royalties, and no notice given of intent to obtain compulsory license, etc.

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gtoledo3

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Oct 23 15 10:36 AM

The guy sounds like an asshat...

...but I can think of around half a dozen sites that return links for copyrighted material, that sites like Google or Yahoo don't usually return, beeeMP3, etc. And around half a dozen megaupload type sites that openly host copyrighted material.

If someone makes an app that plays those from their file location, who is the one doing the illegal thing? Not rhetorical, I don't know.

The morality of it is enough to keep me from doing something like that, but working in programming... I 100% understand the attitude of those that are possessed to do things like this, because I've been surrounded by these attitudes for years. People basically think that someone else is going to do it if they don't, and that you can't stop technology, that the technical innovation is more important.

I'm not agreeing, but I am sure this guy is thinking that he isn't the one posting the links (supposedly), so he's not doing anything illegal.

I'll add - apparently our legal system has some logic that makes it so that ISPs aren't culpable. But who is *really* delivering the pirated product?

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Oct 23 15 10:41 AM

This kind of reminds me of issues like abortion or guns....

Whenever a supreme court judge is elected, people talk about it like they are the ones who decide those issues.

No. Congress makes laws.

A guy who makes an app like this, may be a dickhead. Maybe he's even doing something illegal. Yet, it is up to Congress to make laws that possess the ISPs to create some sort of system that stops this, ultimately. People have such a poor understanding of technology that this will probably go on for decades before anything happens. My one hope is that 3D printing tech will make this issue effect more industries, and possess Congress to have to do something.

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Oct 23 15 11:44 AM

seth wrote:
Which side would the be record companies on? Their side or their side?

Yea, the side that caters to their incredible shortsightedness.

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gtoledo3

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Oct 23 15 11:57 AM

What would be advantageous to large media/tech corporations like Sony or Time Warner, etc, would be to sell you connectivity and hardware, while offering the promises of free content.

Then to churn through a constant stream of entertainers that get too far in, before realizing how the system works, and definitely before having any power to do anything about it.

Then for people to not blame them, and for them to have legal safe haven.

Why wouldn't it be to Sony, Time/Warner, etc's, advantage to have people constantly uploading "pirated" content, and even be doing it themselves, as long as it's a loss leader for some other product they ARE selling? The people that come up short are the creators, what do they really are about that? There is a constant stream of people that don't understand this, and who are looking for their 15 minutes.

This guy is a low man on the totem pole, and while what he is doing may not be right, and may even be illegal, it is not the root of the problem. The people perpetrating the current scenario with music piracy are more than happy for people to lay blame with guys like this.

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Oct 23 15 6:05 PM

Lifted from the article...

Luiz Nickel @its_luiznickel
I #StandWithAurous not because of the RIAA bullshit, but because paying for streaming is too expensive for me. Aurous, pls do not fall.
4:38 PM - 21 Oct 2015

What an unbelievably effed up world we live in.

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Oct 28 15 11:01 PM

I'm having a hard time figuring out why they thought this stupid move would work in their favor. I guess the world is too black and white for my sensibilities. I could just see their lawyer saying, "YOU DID WHAT????"

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gtoledo3

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Oct 29 15 8:53 AM

duskb wrote:
I'm having a hard time figuring out why they thought this stupid move would work in their favor. I guess the world is too black and white for my sensibilities. I could just see their lawyer saying, "YOU DID WHAT????"

They probably believe that returning links to third party websites, with the option of an interface that lets you play the media, is legal.

Quite frankly, Google does this, Yahoo does this, etc., etc.

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Dec 9 15 12:40 PM

Aurous SHUTS DOWN, Forever


RIAA wins in settlement, gets $3 Million in payment.

H, Musicians win again.

Let's keep it up, we will win this fight in the long run.


As Blake just said…


Hahaha! Okay...this is getting fun. Remember about a month ago when I got into the public Twitter-battle with the founder of the anti-music maker, anti-copyright app Aurous? Well, screen grabs of that battle were submitted in the case brought against them in United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Today they were permanently shut down. Forever. Final score: Music Makers = 1, Aurous and Music Thieves = 0. There's a new sheriff in town: we musicians. ‪#‎IRespectMusic‬


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