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Mar 3 17 12:34 PM

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Being in the news recently I revisited the movie and then read some articles and interviews with some rock stars and their thoughts when they first saw it

Some laughed but it seemed alot thought it was a real thing, or didn't find it funny because it was so true to life.

Steven Tyler actually got mad apparently and took the side of the band the whole time when he saw it with Joe. Ozzy thought it was real. The Edge didn't find it funny as well

Just wondering what you thoght about it? fav parts? was it brilliant satire? or to real?
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Mar 3 17 2:38 PM

Oh my God, the 'Stonehenge' postmortem meeting D:

Brilliant AND painfully sharp. That road manager, oh my God. His rage as the lead singer's girlfriend is brought in as co-management. How uncomfortable it is as he blows up and quits, in totally justifiable rage (cue confused Nigel, not really getting why he's in the middle of this fight). Then: "Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do Stonehenge tomorrow?"

"Well, I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation."

Great comedy can be extraordinarily ruthless. 'Spinal Tap' is that kind of ruthless. It's any well-meaning band's worst nightmare, and I bet those who are a little close to the joke do feel a bit stung.

Great bombastic stupid metal madness, too. I've seen it in a movie theater where they cranked it WAY up. It was glorious.

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Mar 3 17 2:46 PM

I think it's great. Might be a bit of a thermometer of how full of themselves certain people might be? I dunno, I've never met any of those people who are said to have reacted negatively.

Everybody I've ever dicussed it with who's in the biz thought it was great. I never got a chance to discuss it with him, but when I recently read Lemmy's book he said that he loved it and also thought it was pretty spot on.

OTOH, some people find it difficult to laugh at themselves...

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Mar 3 17 3:00 PM

morespaceecho wrote:
it's hilarious. i've watched it a zillion times and it keeps getting funnier. 

and their joke tunes are better than lots of people's real ones.

Joke tunes?

There were joke tunes?

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Mar 3 17 3:06 PM

John Eppstein wrote:

morespaceecho wrote:
it's hilarious. i've watched it a zillion times and it keeps getting funnier. 

and their joke tunes are better than lots of people's real ones.

Joke tunes?

There were joke tunes?

Exactly.

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Mar 3 17 3:08 PM

Me as well, i find it hilarious. watching it again i picked up so many new parts, nuances, expressions that i hadnt seen before

the timing is impeccable as well. when Nigel is showing ROb the guitar with the tage and the dialogue followed with "Your done here, you've seen enough", something like that, i laughed and hadn't even remembered that.

its hard to dust for vomit

''THEY are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry,''                ''That's just nit picking, isn't it?''

and the absolute conviction they have that many people spontaneously com bust every year, although you can tell they are uncomfortable with another drummers untimely demise.and don't fully understand what happened

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Mar 3 17 7:35 PM

I saw it with Graham Parker when it first came out and he thought it was hysterical. 

Hard to imagine anyone not 'getting it' as satire. 

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Mar 3 17 9:24 PM

trock wrote:
The Edge didn't find it funny as well

 

says the guy who makes his roadie change strings on 40 guitars EVERY single night during a tour.  

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Mar 3 17 9:31 PM

Their first gig was opening up for a lineup of Iron Butterfly that a friend was in.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/sep/22/film.film

From the article above:

"Iron Butterfly
One of the first heavy rock bands, Iron Butterfly were formed in San Diego in 1966. It is fitting that there should be strong links between the Tap and Iron Butterfly, for whom the description "heavy metal" is believed to have been coined. The band plotted a similar course to the Tap, moving from psychedelia to heavy rock and pushing the envelope of the four-minute pop song to the epic form with their classic In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida (the album of the same name is said to have sold 25m copies). Spinal Tap played their first live gig at Gazzari's on Sunset Strip, in a double bill with Iron Butterfly."

This is another interesting point from the article that I hadn't previously considered:

"Last Waltz, The

Directed by Martin Scorsese, one of the inspirations for Martin DiBergi, this proto-rockumentary records the last performance by The Band, which Robbie Robertson describes as "the beginning of the end of the beginning".

The interview technique of This Is Spinal Tap is lifted straight from The Last Waltz, where Scorsese placed himself in front of the camera for some of his chats with the band, of which he was a declared fan. In the interviews, the band explain that they got together having been assured that they would get "more pussy than Frank Sinatra".

Among the film's Tap-like moments: the band members discuss the pleasures and pains of 16 years on the road, and the tensions and joys created by mixing music and women; a very obviously and chronically goofed keyboardist, Richard Manuel, recalls the band's problems with settling on a name: "It was right in the middle of the whole psychedelia, Chocolate Strawberries and Marshmallow Overcoat - those kind of names. They were the Hawks and toyed with becoming the Crackers or the Honkies before eventually settling on the Band." In a very Tap-like observation, Robbie Robertson acknowledges what rock'n'roll had done for them: "It took us everywhere. It took us to some strange places... physically, spiritually and psychotically."

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Mar 3 17 11:38 PM

d gauss wrote:

trock wrote:
The Edge didn't find it funny as well



 

says the guy who makes his roadie change strings on 40 guitars EVERY single night during a tour.  

hahahaha.

this reminded me...a few years ago we went to see van halen at whatever unfortunate thing the boston garden is called now. via a friend we got a backstage tour before the show. a lot of it was actually under the stage but anyway, our very nice and charming guide is showing us EVH's guitar area....i'm not one to get all ooohh la la about guitars, i really don't care....but there i am standing 5 feet from eddie freaking van halen's guitars, and yunno...WOAH.

so there we are looking at them and i start to make the vaguest sort of leaning in just a little bit closer gesture and our guide gently puts a hand up: "no, no, that's close enough."
"don't even look at it?" 
"pretty much"

and we all laughed and he gave us some picks and shuffled us out.

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Mar 4 17 12:50 AM

The Iron Butterfly anecdote is kind of a "missed opportunity" story for me. As a long time friend and collaborator of the band (IB) I tried to convince Ron Bushy to audition as drummer for ST when they were holding open auditions in the 90s for their "comeback". Ron didn't really understand how big a thing Spinal Tapp really was and blew it off.

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Mar 4 17 2:42 AM

gtoledo3 wrote:
I love the part with Nigel's guitar room.

Here's an interview with Jeff Beck that reminds me of that interview section.

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OK it's cold here

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trock.lucasmicrophone

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Mar 4 17 7:51 AM

Totally right on the last waltz thing. found a youtube interview with Rob Reiner that it was toitally the inspiration for his character

I also didnt realize there was pretty much no script, and he has over 100 hours of film they shot, that he spent 9 months editing down to 82 minutes for the movie.

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Mar 4 17 10:43 AM

oh nice! i was going to ask if we knew what the improv to scripted ratio was. i had a feeling they were just making it up, nice to have confirmation.

the scene where they're trying to check into the hotel and their rooms aren't ready, ian insults the guy behind the counter, who looks taken aback and then says "i'm just as god made me, sir." so good.

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Mar 5 17 6:43 AM

Somewhere I have the vinyl of that Iron Butterfly album. I'm sure there's a section in the liner notes that explains how the drummer came from such a poor background that he used to have to carve his own drumsticks from logs.

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