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barry hufker

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Mar 11 17 10:40 PM

"while he is playing, I put my best ear in every spot around him and find the sweet spots"

Even in his late sixties legendary engineer, Bill Porter, still did that even with stiff joints and arthritic knees.  He could have said, "well this is where I always put the mic" or "this is where I got the sound for my greatest hits" but instead he treated each player and instrument as unique and hunted for the best sound.

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compasspnt

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Mar 13 17 11:18 PM

barry hufker wrote:
"while he is playing, I put my best ear in every spot around him and find the sweet spots"

Even in his late sixties legendary engineer, Bill Porter, still did that even with stiff joints and arthritic knees.  He could have said, "well this is where I always put the mic" or "this is where I got the sound for my greatest hits" but instead he treated each player and instrument as unique and hunted for the best sound.

SURELY this is common practice for everyone!

And of course, I know the "Don't call me Shirley" joke...)






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wireline

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Mar 14 17 7:18 AM

weedywet wrote:
I've never tried clipping tacos to my nipples
but whatever works

I have...the results were not pleasant.

I've always believed each guitar is slightly different, and should be dealt with as such.  No steadfast rules, just starting points

Ken Morgan

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weedywet

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Mar 14 17 11:22 AM

Yes. And that's true about everything. 

I put the mic where I think it should go; where it looks right; where experience tells me it works. And then if it sounds wrong I move it. 

It's not really more complicated than that. 
 

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maarvold

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Mar 14 17 2:19 PM

weedywet wrote:
...I put the mic where I think it should go; where it looks right; where experience tells me it works. And then if it sounds wrong I move it. 

 
ww is right: listening is key.  It's also helpful to know the gear you're using and to trust your gut.  I used to assist for an engineer who--if something wasn't sounding (or feeling) right to him--he would just stand up and say, "STOP... something's wrong", then figure it out.  A look at his awards wall & shelf would indicate he was right.  

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James May

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Mar 20 17 9:52 PM

bob olhsson wrote:
Tony Rice told me to put an 84 near the bottom of his guitar pointing up at his right hand. I've never found anything that worked as well!

Mr. Olhsson, I've got to thank you for this pearl. Until I read this, I had never tried this position. My interpretation of what you meant is this: at the intersection of the upper and lower bouts on the bottom of the guitar, go out 6-8" and down 6-8" and point the mic up at where the picking hand is. This is typically toward the rear of the sound hole. Please correct me if I've got it wrong.

I am now calling this position the "down under" position. I've been using a small diaphragm condenser with a particularly flat response, not unlike a KM84. The results have been incredibly good on 4 or 5 different guitars. If I had to describe the difference between this and the typical 8-10" from the 15th fret approach, I'd say the down under method is smoother and more evenly balanced, better representing the perceived character of the guitar. Hooray for this approach.

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seth

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Mar 20 17 11:30 PM

I tend to start with that position rather than the neck-body joint, but ultimately I always get down on my hands and knees and move my ear around to see where it sounds best.

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