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barry hufker

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May 14 17 10:48 PM

I don't know anything about the state of current Brauners as I purchased Dirk's mics years back.  I have several models and love them all.  Add to it that Dirk is a great guy and that it is enjoyable to support a person of his character by purchasing his wares.

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burp182

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May 15 17 12:03 PM

Agreed.
If you can find one, the Valvet Voice was Dirk's take on the way a KHE sounded on vocals. Really nice on the right voice for a non-astronomical price.

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burp182

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May 16 17 11:57 AM

Dirk, actually, back when the mic was first introduced. He never implied that it was an exact duplicate. (In fact, he gave me several reasons why that would be impossible.) But he did his best to voice it in a similar way within its limitations.
It's a very nice mic. In fact, we used one on Frank Sinatra Jr. (#007) and he liked it so much that he bought that mic and another for backup. We never had to use eq on his voice, whether for music or voiceover. The attorneys for the family trust have both up on eBay as we speak.
It ain't my KHE but I'm comfortable recommending it as a quality product.

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ryanstreber

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May 17 17 8:11 AM

I've had my pair of VM1s for over 10 years now, and they've been excellent workhorse mics. I use them primarily as close mics on piano, but they're really nice on so many other things. I owned a "regular" valvet for a while as well as the cardioid-only fet version (can't remember the model number), and both were also very nice little mics for the price.

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nobturner

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As the comments here have been pretty general so far... I own a VM1, and like it a lot on some (female) singers. It's bright and detailed, which can at times make it a little too revealing, so it's not for everyone, and I wouldn't use it on a screamer for fear of scaring the animals. I also like it on acoustic guitar, which isn't surprising given its sonic profile.

James Gangwer told me its circuitry is based on the U67, which is interesting given that it sounds nothing like that mic. Still, I like it a lot on sax, which is an application where I often find a 67 effective. My only dissatisfaction with mine is the "crescent" shock mount that came with it. It is necessary to force the mic into it, which mars its finish. I've had lots of O-rings break. I finally gave up and started using an ugly $25 shock mount that was made from some PVC pipe.

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ryanstreber

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I could very well be wrong, but I believe that the VM1 uses a K67-style capsule but a no-negative-feedback circuit which would make it very different from the 67. Apologies in advance if that's incorrect, but at the very least seems to be a much simpler circuit than a 67. The older ones like mine use E80f tubes which would be another slight similarity to the 67 (EF86), but I believe that Brauner switched to submini tubes (EF732?) quite a while ago.

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gustav

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I have traced a VM1
The one I traced had a cathode biased EF86 tube(looked like a gold plated pins Wing C don't know if the tube was changed from stock).

IIRC
The anode/plate current was close to the fixed bias u67 circuit with a 220K plate resistor and close to the same B+.
The cathode was under heated I will need to find my notes for the voltage.
The capsule is different if you hold it up to a light source you can see 10 holes line up in the 67 type split backplates. I did not split the capsule apart to check if it has a shim between the backplates or if it uses a shim.
The transformer is a DI type I did not measure the ratio or inductance
It had a polypro box output cap.

I am not sure what the idea of the 10 holes is about if there is a delay shim.
I am also puzzled by the capsule mount, grill environment design used.

Are there two time delays going on with the 10 holes and a shim(if the capsule has one?) between the backplates?

Gustav

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bockaudio

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nobturner wrote:
James Gangwer told me its circuitry is based on the U67, which is interesting given that it sounds nothing like that mic.
 

I'm glad you mentioned this, and it could be a whole thread unto itself. Often circuit and execution details make descriptions moot, unless you are completely fluent in circuirty and measurement, and attempts to provide users with generalizations about a product actually end up muddying the waters. More to come on this topic when I start a new thread.

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bockaudio

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gustav wrote:
The capsule is different if you hold it up to a light source you can see 10 holes line up in the 67 type split backplates. I did not split the capsule apart to check if it has a shim between the backplates or if it uses a shim.
I am not sure what the idea of the 10 holes is about if there is a delay shim.
Are there two time delays going on with the 10 holes and a shim(if the capsule has one?) between the backplates?

Gustav
 

Real inside baseball, but I have not seen a dual backplate without a center shim, but some have ports there and some don't. But I agree with the question, about weighing those two factors against each other (no center chamber vs. through hole delay).
For  those who don't know, this is not like a normal k67 capsule, to have that many thoughtholes. IIR this must change the fig 8 response, for the worse.
 

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bockaudio

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Dirk has asked me to post this response:
Hi to everyone. David Bock sent me a link to reply here. All I can say is that we still love to build microphones and pay the same attention we always did. We still manufacture the whole classic range of mics that
we did in the past and have no means to step into any mass production market or anything like that. I also have to say that I am taking this opportunity because of the friendly invitation by David Bock and I usually do not post on forums as I simply just don't have the time to do so. Please understand. However anyone is free to ask dedicated questions to me using my regular company email address, which is info@brauner-microphones.com. I will answer all requests in detail and you are free to quote those in forums as long as you stay true to what I've said. All the Best to all of you and thank you for your appreciation and support through all these years. Dirk Brauner.

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