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soapfoot

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Dec 9 13 1:27 PM

bobweston wrote:
soapfoot wrote:
Bob, has anyone you correspond with expressed a preference between the two, or is it more of a "these two are equally great" type of situation. It's interesting with RTI being a vaunted veteran and QRP being the new kid.


We've heard from a few of our pickier label clients and one well known "audiophile journalist" that QRP is doing the best work in the US right now.

bw 

That's very interesting, and extremely impressive. Thanks for weighing in. I'll have to give them serious consideration for an upcoming project that's particularly important to me.

brad allen williams

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ruairi

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Jan 8 14 5:46 PM

Any experience with Key Production, London for Vinyl cutting and pressing?

Hi all,

I have a client whose label plans on using these guys - http://www.keyproduction.co.uk/services/vinyl-manufacture

Clearly they are just brokers, any idea who they are using for cutting/pressing?  They mention DMM which must shorten the list considerably.

Any experiences to share?

Cheers,
Ruairi
 

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zmix

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Jan 8 14 9:21 PM

Re: Any experience with Key Production, London for Vinyl cutting and pressing?

Perhaps this should go into the "Record Pressing" thread so that if you get any advice it will be available there?

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Jan 8 14 10:41 PM

Re: Any experience with Key Production, London for Vinyl cutting and pressing?

Yes Chuck, didn't even think of that.

Can mods merge threads with the new forum software?

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Feb 7 14 1:16 PM

I'd also like to chime in on QRP.  Great work for me in 2013.  They did some amazing 200g for a client of mine. Chuck is a prince. Great customer service. Best vinyl work in my 22 years of biz.  In Europe, Schallplatten Fabrik Pallas is tops. Most of my clients are using Rainbo due to cost.  They have been doing great. No rejects in 2013.

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Nov 20 14 11:44 AM

"I have had good results back from Optimal in Germany. My client booked it through a broker who got a better rate than dealing direct. I supplied 96/24 files which were I believe cut DMM"

I thought GZ are the only ones in Europe at the moment offering DMM (and this only for the last few years), who else does?

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Nov 29 14 6:29 PM

Thomas T wrote:
I thought GZ are the only ones in Europe at the moment offering DMM (and this only for the last few years), who else does?


Abbey Road can cut DMM.

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Dec 18 14 6:59 PM

Over the last few months, I've had a not-great experience with a press-plant that will remain nameless until I have my final product -- which I have, reluctantly, already paid for out of necessity.

This place was recommended to me by a colleague in Boston who does a lotta punk rock 7" releases...which is precisely what I'm doing. Not a "hifi" record, not a "lofi" record. Live off the floor, 9 minutes of music printed to stereo in under 4 hours for a 45RPM disc. 3:54 on side A, 4:35 on side B.

I formally and officially submitted my order with a very-reachable target date two days before recording the music, sent payment and 24-bit master WAV's for sides A and B of a 7" the day after the album was recorded. The records are largely pre-sold and the rest are to come on tour with me in January to help pay for gas money and food.

One month after submission of WAVs, after lots of nudging on my part, they send an MP3 "proof" of the cut -- one minute per side. It sounds a little better than what I sent down, if a touch noisier. HOWEVER, Side B is 6dB down from Side A. I alert them to this, they respond that it's because of Lines-Per-Inch and they can bring down A to match B. Fine. I approve.

One month after receiving these MP3's, I nudge them to ask where exactly my test presses are.

To paraphrase, the response I got was: "We got the stampers back a week ago but haven't cut the test yet. You're not going to have your records for your tour. This is bad news for you. Tests, maybe. Records, no."

I gently remind them that my target date was very much inside of the time they recommend when ordering, and tell them that if these records don't come on tour with me, they're going to sit in my house forever. I tell them that they should have been more transparent about production and delivery dates WAY earlier than seventeen days before I leave for tour.

No response.

Miraculously, the test presses show up two days ago. Noisy as all hell. Tons of surface noise. Crackling and popping and hiss that's very much audible through my LOUD music. Nothing like the "proof" that was sent to me initially. 100% noisier. There's also a visible "dent" on side B of every test (which means it's on the master) which equates to a near-complete drop of the left channel for a quarter of a second in the middle of a song.

By now, the only way I can get these records as they are before tour is to ship them directly to the venue of my first show and pack them in the club. This involves express/air shipping which is not inexpensive.

What do I do? I fuckin' approve it. What else can I do? I can't leave the people who paid for these in OCTOBER hanging, and I can't NOT have them with me on tour. I refuse to be a traveling T-Shirt store that plays music for 30 minutes a night. I need to sell music.

What exactly was sent to me when I heard these MP3 proofs? Why is the test press significantly noisier? Why do dogs bark?

Kill me.

Also, please come see me on tour. If you buy a record, it ain't my fault that it's noisy.

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Dec 22 14 5:52 PM

Doesn't look (sound) good...

To our esteemed, experienced cutting engineers here at PRW -- what could have caused this sort of noise on the "stamper" that didn't show up on whatever was the "proof" of the cut? Did they farm out the metal parts? Did something over there dramatically change in the month between the two?

Still getting radio silence from the press plant in question...

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Dec 22 14 8:07 PM

Offer a trade-in for anyone who buys the record and is unhappy with the sound. At the pressing plant's expense. You might have to bully them into it. I once got a retailer to take back 3 defective CD players even though I didn't discover the problem until I had already modded them and drilled holes in the back.

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Dec 22 14 8:21 PM

What a nightmare.

Just goes to show us that some care is warranted in choosing a plant. So many ways it can go wrong. I've got it narrowed down to two plants to press my upcoming project. I feel like I've fully vetted them and I have high hopes that either would do a good job. 

brad allen williams

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Dec 22 14 10:15 PM

URP and the like stated very-much-so that they couldn't hit my date, and I believed them and thanked them. Places that could do it were WAY out of the price range for a run of 300. I'd have lost $2 to sell a 7" after making the jackets by hand and shipping.

Fenris, I'm gonna have a hard time getting this place to expense anything in my favor, being that I approved the tests out of absolute necessity. I simply refuse to hit the road and sell T-Shirts. I'd rather sell noisy, popping and crackling records instead of nothing but T-Shirts.

Not a great situation.

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Dec 22 14 11:24 PM

I'm scheduled to get my product on 12/31/14. It will be with some reluctance when I state the name of the plant after that point.

I mean no harm to anyone's small business. I'm just super-bummed.

It's never a good feeling when something you were very excited about -- and worked INCREDIBLY HARD ON -- comes back nearly ruined.

But I still want my product.

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