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seaneldon

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Dec 23 14 12:22 PM

The recording engineer of this album heard the tests today and says that while it's not great, it's not as bad as I make it seem and I'm probably too attached to it to not hear this noise overwhelmingly amplified compared to anyone else on the planet.

Even if he's lying to me, I truly appreciate this insight.

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Dec 23 14 12:34 PM

Seems you might have it sorted, but..
The runaround is sorta unacceptable, .. even around the holidays which always seems to be rush season.
Broker out of Cambridge or Allston?

If things are delayed as mentioned, maybe you can send lossy and lossless links to the prepaid in the meantime,  .. with the promise of vinyl in the pipeline.

Can you sell cd's at the shows as well, or is it pretty much a vinyl only thing?
If you get stuck, I can get color printed cd's on a spindle at cost (about 25 cents)

I had a similer thing happen in 1990 with the first LP I ever produced on a spec deal,.. same time of year.

It was a timing thing and not a quality thing.  Sucked.  Swore off the company forever but finally started using them again 15 years later.   The group ended up getting a deal, so all was not lost. gl

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Dec 23 14 1:22 PM

Hey Tom, good to hear from you. We should meet up for coffee or an adult beverage or coffee with booze in it next time you're in my hood.

No CDs on this...the record's not 9 even minutes long and was envisioned as a 45RPM 7" from inception. I'll be able to have the records at the first show of tour (so says the previously incommunicado folk in charge of making and shipping them)...but my lovely tour accountant (girlfriend) will have to stuff 'em into the jackets and polybags in the back of the club as soon as we show up in Chicago and we'll have to ship the preorders from Cincinnati the next day. Appreciate the offer on the CDs, though. The press plant in question is not the Cambridge or Allston folks you're thinking of, and not local to MA at all.

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Dec 24 14 2:21 AM

Nupe...Getting closer, though not geographically...

And again, I didn't go with this place because it was "cheap" -- I went with them because they "specialize" in small runs, said they could do it in time, and because I've got records on my shelf with their name in the credits. 

I'm really hoping Adam was being honest when he said I was over-freaking about this.

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Dec 24 14 12:57 PM

Eric Corne wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with  http://vinylrecordguru.com?

Eric


 

They're a broker and use Dietrich for their cutting. I have a client that used them and liked the sound quality but had problems getting the right material on the test pressings...

As in: His name on the label but someone else's programme...and more than once on this particular job. In fairness to them, they did sort it out on their dime. I'd like to try them again (they're local) but the current process (Paul Gold and either Rainbo or RTI) ain't broke...

Graemme

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seaneldon

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Dec 31 14 2:20 AM

UPDATE: Got my 300 records delivered to Chicago before my first show (which is Thursday).

On my pal's rig, I don't hear the noise as I did with the test presses at home...I choose to not question this. I'm packing these as they are and will not listen to them on my own stereo until 1/11/15.

The jackets are handmade with a rubber stamp for the title, expensive artsy-fartsy marker drawing for the image on the front, and a spray painted stencil on the back for track list and credits.

Never make jackets like this. Seems like a cute "homemade, handmade" idea until you actually have to execute it on a largeish scale. I've been making these jackets for three months.

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Dec 31 14 12:01 PM

compasspnt wrote:
Well at least when you sell them, you will have made 5 cents an hour ;~)

Seriously, congrats on receiving them in time. Hopefully they sound "good enough for rock and roll."
 

The $0.15 polybags ate into my $0.05/hr profit...

Palomino came through in the clutch, even if most of the communication was sorta lacking...happy with the product, in the end.

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Jan 3 15 9:49 AM

I've zero experience with these guys (they're new, they may not even be operational yet), but there's a new (small) pressing plant in Memphis: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/local-news/new-pressing-plant-brings-resurgent-vinyl-record-business-back-to-memphis_74692666

One of the owners runs a CD manufacturing company based also based here - great work at what seem to be great prices.

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Jan 3 15 10:00 AM

Didn't Mark Yoshida run the old Rockingchair Recording Studio across from Overton park on Poplar back in the day?

I never recorded anything there (was a bit too young when they went out of business) but it couldn't be bad to have someone who has background as a recording studio owner involved in a new pressing plant.

I imagine there will likely be some growing pains at first, but it never hurts to have another plant around!

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Jan 3 15 10:14 AM

soapfoot wrote:
Didn't Mark Yoshida run the old Rockingchair Recording Studio across from Overton park on Poplar back in the day?

Yah, he did. And AFAIK he still masters at AGMW (the CD manufacturing plant) when requested. Based on client experiences with AGMW I suspect the new pressing plant will do great work at reasonable rates.

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Jan 17 15 10:30 PM

I have a similar situation to seaneldon.
I'm in the process of getting my first album pressed to vinyl, and its giving me a whole new appreciation for CDs :) The test pressings arrived a couple weeks ago with audible sibilance on side A (the last 5 minutes of a 17:30 side.). I gave an unplayed test copy to my engineer and he agreed. So I sent a complaint to the broker (who already has all my money and therefore shall remain nameless for the time being). Their response was that they forwarded my complaint to the pressing plant, and the plant agrees that the sibilance exists, but it isnt bad enough to bother fixing it. This response just about made my head explode.

I honestly had no idea what i was getting myself into when i decided to put my music on vinyl, i just had a fantasy in my head that after all the work i put in recording the album it would be a cool thing to do. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated, I dont want to be off topic so If you can point me in the right direction Id appreciate it.

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compasspnt

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Jan 17 15 11:34 PM

Welcome to the Wonderful World of Vinyl.

This is why most of us for many years prayed for a better playback medium.

Now that we have it, everyone complains, and longs nostalgically for "the good old days of vinyl."

Also, most vinyl records today are not near as good as most were back in the day.

Best of luck with it…sometimes test pressings are worse than the final version (fingers crossed).

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Jan 18 15 9:22 AM

Compounding the issue is that those of us who care might be in the smallest of minorities.

TPs came back for a project I worked on about a year ago. I laughed when I heard them-- awfully sibilant, VISUALLY (naked-eye) noticeable flaws in the surface (craters, dips, etc). The recording engineer and producer heard them and were ecstatic-- thought they were great. I couldn't believe it.

meepzork, could you reveal the name of the plant (if not the broker) that had that attitude? I'll be sure to never use them!

brad allen williams

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Jan 18 15 5:10 PM

Id rather not reveal the names until i have discs in hand. To the best of my knowledge, the pressing plant also did the cut. They have told me that since they dont think the issue is "that bad" that I will have to pay to have a new stamper or plate created, AND (heres the kicker) "no guarantees that the issue will be resolved".
I have tried my best to apply reason and common sense to this:
1. The press guys recognize the issue, and have the equipment to resolve it, but cannot guarantee a fix?
2. The track at the end of side A (the one with the most noise) is literally the first half of the track at the end of side B (no noise). both halves were recorded as one song, same instruments, mixed as one song, but split up to make room on the sides. if the source that i provided was the issue (as they are claiming), wouldn't the sibilance on side A also be present on side B?

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Jan 18 15 5:20 PM

One other question, I have been told that test pressings are noisy and the final pressing will sound better, Is there any chance this issue will just go away in the final pressing?

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