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waltzmastering

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Oct 12 14 7:49 AM

reynaud wrote:

waltzmastering wrote:
Unless you run into sticky shed. which isn't rare.

As Fenris mentioned, generally, faults such the hydrolysis of pigment binders are curable.

No. I know.  I'm just saying over time nothing is as gravy as it sounds.  Retrieving old 3 track recordings I'm sure would be a chore and you are still dealing with proper alignment and calibration issue's. ..but it can be done. Probably the best archive for old analog is digital, but then you'd want to keep it in a couple if not a few different places and ensure backward compatibility and store as higher rez consolidated files to be safe-r.

 

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Oct 12 14 8:36 AM

I'm sorry, but after baking a tape once, then putting it back into storage, then baking it again later, storing, baking, etc., is NOT a perfect archive method.

The tape is never as good on each subsequent baking. I have had tapes become unusable after two bakings.

I don't care what any specification "says," this was real life learning.

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reynaud

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Oct 12 14 3:42 PM

compasspnt wrote:
I'm sorry, but after baking a tape once, then putting it back into storage, then baking it again later, storing, baking, etc., is NOT a perfect archive method.

The tape is never as good on each subsequent baking. I have had tapes become unusable after two bakings.

I don't care what any specification "says," this was real life learning.

 

Terry, please do not misunderstand, no one is suggesting that. I am not aware of any specification that even makes that claim and IASA-TC05 certainly does not either.

I suggested that IASA-TC05 be required reading since it still surprising the amount of engineers who lack this basic knowledge in such a crucial area. The suggestion was not directed at any one individual nor as a specific counter to a particular method suggested in this thread. It merely seemed pertinent to further the discussion and to share new information that may be of interest.

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jerry tubb

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Oct 13 14 5:25 AM

So I guess we have to consider the relative merits & weaknesses of the 3 types of archiving, analog tape, magnetic & optical digital.

Properly done and maintained, each have their strengths, and can last for many years if not decades.

Best, JT

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Oct 13 14 6:46 AM

waltzmastering wrote:
Probably the best archive for old analog is digital, but then you'd want to keep it in a couple if not a few different places and ensure backward compatibility and store as higher rez consolidated files to be safe-r.

 

Right now I work a lot for the departmental conservation, I transfer all of their archives (1/4 inch tape, cassette, mini-cassette, DAT, Minidisc ...).

In addition to create numbers of inventories, we use this method :

- 1 HD file
- 1 MP3 file (to listen everywhere and sharing online)
- 2 referenced audio CD (each stored in different locations)

The whole is transferred to two hard drives (also stored in different locations)

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Feb 22 17 12:41 PM

Old thread but can anyone recommend a backup software for OSX that is capable of backing up only select folders in a way that each time a backup is ran after the initial backup only files that have been added, deleted or modified are backed up?  

I figured Time Machine or SuperDuper! could do this but both backup entire hard drives.  What I want is the functionality of those but only for a select few folders for an offsite backup.  Thanks.

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Feb 22 17 1:06 PM

aleatoric wrote:
Old thread but can anyone recommend a backup software for OSX that is capable of backing up only select folders in a way that each time a backup is ran after the initial backup only files that have been added, deleted or modified are backed up?  

I figured Time Machine or SuperDuper! could do this but both backup entire hard drives.  What I want is the functionality of those but only for a select few folders for an offsite backup.  Thanks.

I use Carbon Copy Cloner many times throughout the day. It's solid. I love it:

https://bombich.com

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jerry tubb

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Feb 23 17 8:25 AM

Yeah I think we've all seen HDDs fail, always a bummer.
best to have double, and maybe triple backups, on different brands of media.
Yesterday I restored a 2005 project from Verbatim DVD-R, and it came back perfectly.
Course the discs have been stored in pretty ideal controlled conditions.
Probably an artist having all their audio music data refreshed every 5 years would be a good route.
Best, JT

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jerry tubb

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Jun 6 17 10:44 AM

we recently moved up to 2TB hard drives, after a few years of stubbornly staying on 1TB HDDs.

the theory is that the larger a HDD, you have "more to lose" when it eventually fails.

but the convenience of larger and larger HDDs makes it even more tempting to go to 4TB drives.

anyone using those yet?

transferring all your old smaller BackUp HDDs to a handful of 4TB drives, either for convenient downsizing, or at least redundancy.

at some point(!) you'd think that a the spot of magnetic data on the surface of the HDD platter would approach the minimun Plank level,

and that would be it.

then i guess we'll go to encoding backups into DNA strands ...double helix living data :~)>

best, jt

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Jun 6 17 5:21 PM

I'm using 3 terabytes hard drives Jerry. They're so inexpensive I've got two (I just back up to both of those) plus internally (until the project is done). Redundancy still rules.

Silvertone Mastering, celebrating 28 years in business.

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Last Edited By: silvertone Jun 7 17 5:26 AM. Edited 1 time.

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jerry tubb

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Jun 7 17 5:47 AM

oops(!) we've been upstaged Lar!

10TB now at your local big box store :~)>

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/seagate-barracuda-pro-10tb-internal-sata-hard-drive-for-desktops/5707130.p?skuId=5707130

funny i remember buying our first 1 ~GB~ hdd in the fall of 1990 for about $4k.

a full height HP drive in a Pacific Coast Technologies enclosure.

noisy and slow as molasses.

but we had the biggest hard drive in town, other than the university.

best, jt

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Jun 7 17 8:29 AM

sausagemaker wrote:
This one has been reAlly good to me...

http://www.freefilesync.org
+1

Free File Sync here on a daily basis to sync the daily working drives with the archive system and weekly to clone the archive system to a mirrored system.

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tbethel

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Jun 8 17 4:45 AM

My first large hard drive was 1.6 GB for my Sonic System and costs $3500.00 in 1998. It was a SCSI drive. Today a 1TB drive costs about $50.00 so I could have 70 TB of storage for what I paid for one drive. Quite a difference.

-TOM-
Thomas W. Bethel
Managing Director, Acoustik Musik, Ltd.
www.acoustikmusik.com/
Celebrating 22 years in business in 2017

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