mario i wrote:
I don't know why you seem to be on the attack here on my last posts….
Have you actually read my post(s)?
1) I personally favour the Midas analogue console, but that does't stop me or any engineer using a digital.
And actually many venues house engineer will even use an iPad and be able to walk around the room
or fix Monitors while on stage with musicians. This is where it's at, and many bands expect it.
2) I said 15 band EQ was MINIMAL for Mains in orders words pref 31 band and a good Parametric can easily handle FOH duties in most Venues.
The line below said 31's for Monitors.
3) I never said anything about POWERED mains or Mons… I actually hate them. Doubles up wiring for nothing. Ditto for monitors.
Most of those powered things are a compromise of sound and function.
4) Mike did not SPECIFICALLY ask about an analogue console, he said "I would like ease (analog) of use, great sound and good value...any suggestions?"
The analogue part is in brackets - which I take to mean optional, and ease of use.
He did not cover EQ's FX etc., and therefore I gave him food for thought about the rack mount equipment needed to complete the system.
If someone is on a budget, I would much rather be given the choice of using a digital console than not have the gear I need to run sound.
Mike was the one asking about powered speakers, if I read his original post correctly.
He also asked about an analog console unless I misunderstand his use of the word "analog".
I've done many, many small venue shows with bands I've never seen before and I'll take analog over digital any time, an will continue to do so unless the companies can decide on a standardized interface. When I'm thrown into the thick of things the last thing I want to do is try to figure out an unfamiliar digital console with key functions buried in nested menus.
And quite frankly, anybody who's used a digital console, or DAW for that mater can easily get a grip on a Digital console.
DAW interfaces bug the hell out of me too, you you know something?
In the studio you have TIME to sift through nested menus and to deall with multiple screens. You can work arounde not being able to do simulataneous adjustments by using automation.
'Live, you can't.
Many Large format Analogue consoles can be just as daunting if you are not familiar with it.
There are Mute Groups to consider, Global Pre/Post EQ switches in the Auxes etc.
No, because on those consoles you don't HAVE to use those features. It's not the same as having to delve into a nested menu interface and try an figure out where they've buriede a particular setting when you need to adjust it RIGHT NOW!
Thinking - This is analogue therefore it must be easier is incorrect.
No, it's not. It's just that a lot of younger engineers have come up being used to the compromised workfloiw of a digital console. There are things I do on analog systems that are physically not possible on most digital systems. Like adjust two things in different sections at the same time. There are things that I do with analog Space Echos or, for that matter my ancient Roland SDE-100 DDLs that are not posswible on modern DDLs for the most part, and not on the delays built into digital consoles.
Being able to wander around with a Ipad is nice. (you can pretend to be mixing while chatting up chicks at the bar.) Being able to access functions IMMEDIATELY is crucial.
As far as tweaking monitors onstage, that's what monitor engineers are for. IF the FOH guy is onstage dealing with the mons he's neglecting FOH.
And please keep in mind, I have a large format analogue console in studio and a analogue live console.