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soapfoot

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Jan 10 16 10:56 PM

Of course (even though we all know this, it bears saying) tuning and WHERE you strike the head has a great effect on the amount of muffling needed/preferred. Striking a well-tuned snare right dead perfect in the center removes almost all 'ring' whereas hitting it near the edge excites it.

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jesse decarlo

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Jan 11 16 1:22 AM

weedywet wrote:
To me, the biggest trick to a better snare sound is to NOT hit the rim. 

You mean you don't like it, ever? I.e., no cross-stick during quiet parts, no rim shot right at the climactic break in the song? Or do you mean you just don't like it when players go for the rim shot on every 2 and 4?

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spiritwalker

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Jan 11 16 11:14 AM

I love the wack and feel of hitting the rim full smack. Since I play more live than recording it cuts better at times.
It's the equal to the Tele bridge PU for snares in my mind.

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Jan 11 16 11:25 AM

Feeding the trolls! :-)

Of course a rimshot is good sometimes, frigging ridiculous comment.

But entertaining nonetheless.

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Jan 11 16 12:44 PM

jesse decarlo wrote:

weedywet wrote:
To me, the biggest trick to a better snare sound is to NOT hit the rim. 

You mean you don't like it, ever? I.e., no cross-stick during quiet parts, no rim shot right at the climactic break in the song? Or do you mean you just don't like it when players go for the rim shot on every 2 and 4?

 
mostly the latter.
actual corosstick parts are a different matter

but on 'open' snare hits, i want it to sound like a snare drum.. not like hitting a board

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jesse decarlo

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Jan 11 16 3:22 PM

To me it really depends on the player and the particular snare drum and of course the song. Sometimes rim shots beat you over the head with 1k, and sometimes they make the drum sing just right.

Clyde Stubblefield and his musical descendants generally deploy the rim shot with great finesse - just check out the first 20 seconds:

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Jan 11 16 4:03 PM

jeez, i hate to disagree with The Man Himself, but that's not how funky drummer goes!

but anyway, yes, rimshots don't mean wailing on it or leaving the stick on the head after the hit (bad!), they can be deployed with a light touch, same as anything.

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Jan 12 16 8:53 AM

I hit the rim when need it, i hit the middle of the snare when need it, there are no right or wrong.
do what it take to make the snare sound good with the song.

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andychamp

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Dec 5 16 1:48 PM

soapfoot wrote:
Of course (even though we all know this, it bears saying) tuning and WHERE you strike the head has a great effect on the amount of muffling needed/preferred. Striking a well-tuned snare right dead perfect in the center removes almost all 'ring' whereas hitting it near the edge excites it.

We recently got a 15" Supralite for our studio, and it's amazing how much control that extra inch in diameter provides, even without any damper.
I wonder how widespread 15-inch snares were "back in the day"...
 

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Dec 5 16 7:54 PM

andychamp wrote:

 and it's amazing how much control that extra inch in diameter provides, 

 


............................ Not going there..........................................:)  :)  :)

JN

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Dec 5 16 10:47 PM

bigbone wrote:

andychamp wrote:

 and it's amazing how much control that extra inch in diameter provides, 

 


............................ Not going there..........................................:)  :)  :)

JN

Took me a couple seconds to realise...(I'm not a native English speaker, so some nuances are sometimes lost to me)

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bigbone

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Dec 6 16 9:51 AM

André

Je suis Canadien-Francais, ton anglais est excelent.
i'm french-Canadian, your anglish is excellent as far as i know.

It was my twisted humor.

JN

 

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andychamp

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Dec 6 16 2:24 PM

bigbone wrote:
(...)It was my twisted humor.


 

I should have known, with that username...
(et merci pour les fleurs concernant mon anglais!)

André Champaloux 

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